Episodes

Wednesday Nov 03, 2021
Episode 23 - Raj Burman and Nowar Rahmouni of Techfugees
Wednesday Nov 03, 2021
Wednesday Nov 03, 2021
How technology can support refugees
We speak to Raj Burman (CEO) and Nowar Rahmouni (social media community builder and writer) of Techfugees.
Every 10 seconds someone becomes a refugee. 82.4 million people worldwide were forcibly displaced by the end of 2020. This is forecast to grow to 1 billion people due to climate change over the next 3 decades. So how can technology help?
During the recent refugee crisis in Afghanistan we came across Techfugees, a nonprofit who develop technology “for and with” displaced people. Raj Burman (CEO) and Nowar Rahmouni (social media community builder and writer) discuss how refugees have many skills, including resilience, entrepreneurship and the ability to adapt to change quickly. It’s those personal qualities which mean they have much to offer the world of digital. And if you’re wondering how your leadership style needs to evolve with so much around us all in flux, Techfugees’ decentralised model with ‘servant leadership’ at its heart indicates what the nonprofit of the future may look like.
Paul and Zoe discuss how their use of social media has changed in the light of more revelations about big tech and have a question for you about the environmental impact of hybrid working.
Notes and links -
We discussed:
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Facebook article from Charity Digital
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Guardian article on Facebook whistleblowing
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Editing and production from Syren Studios
Image credit: Syren Studios
Music by Joseph McDade https://josephmcdade.com/music

Wednesday Oct 20, 2021
Episode 22 - Ursula Dolton, Chief Technology Officer at the British Heart Foundation
Wednesday Oct 20, 2021
Wednesday Oct 20, 2021
Zoe and Paul round up the latest tech news, including how organisations are getting on with hybrid working, why the government want us all to head back to the office and what the whistleblowing story means for your relationship with Facebook. Spoiler: it’s complicated.
Notes and links -
We discussed:
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CITY AM article on what government are saying about working from home
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The Facebook whistleblowing story: key excerpts in The Guardian
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5 experts on the future of Facebook (also in The Guardian)
Email us with your questions and ideas for future episodes startsatthetop@gmail.com
And please leave us a review if you enjoy what you hear!
Editing and production from Syren Studios and Paul Thomas
Music by Joseph McDade https://josephmcdade.com/music

Friday Jul 16, 2021
Episode 21 - R. Michael Hendrix, co-author of Two Beats Ahead
Friday Jul 16, 2021
Friday Jul 16, 2021
In our author special we meet R.Michael Hendrix, co-author of Two Beats Ahead.
For our season finale, Paul and Zoe discuss the books that will help you reset over the summer. Top of our list was Two Beats Ahead by Panos Panay and R. Michael Hendrix, a fascinating read about what we can learn from musicians, ranging from Beyonce to Pharrell Williams and David Bowie, about creativity and innovation. Yet it’s also a book about leadership and how to bring teams together to do incredible things. There is so much in this book that represents the modus operandi that leaders need to forge fresh ideas and embed new ways of working in volatile times. We’re giving away a copy of the book so listen out for the details of how to win in the episode!
Zoe and Paul also review what’s been on their summer reading list so far, including A World Without Email by Cal Newport, The Reset: Ideas to Change How We Work and Live by Elizabeth Uviebinene, How to Write One Song by Jeff Tweedy and Klara and the Sun by Kazuo Ishiguro.
In addition, Zoe discusses what the findings from The Charity Digital Skills Report mean for the charity sector.
That’s it from us for Season 3. Thanks for listening. We’ll see you in the autumn for Season 4!

Thursday Jun 24, 2021
Episode 20 - Nicolas Bonard, CEO of Montreux Jazz Festival Media Ventures
Thursday Jun 24, 2021
Thursday Jun 24, 2021
This summer you may be heading to a music festival. It says a lot about the times we’re in now, that you are as likely to have that experience in a field full of strangers as you are watching performances from the comfort of your sofa with your family. But what does that mean for the business model of festivals? And what role should digital play in the festival goer’s experience?
Nicolas Bonard, CEO of Montreux Jazz Festival Media Ventures, was brought in to help answer those very questions. He tells us how he and his team are using digital to reinvent the festival experience, revisiting why they exist, what their proposition is and how to diversify their offering.
If you run any kind of annual event, or if your organisation needs to reach young people, or you’re planning to reinvent what you do, Nicolas has lots of great advice for you.
Zoe and Paul also share the latest tech news, including how the debate between working from home or the office is getting heated and why GPs may be prescribing data generated music playlists rather than pills in the future.
Notes and links -
How tech could help create music prescriptions- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-57328798
BBC article on how Bumble is mandating a paid week off to combat burnout https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57562230
No It Doesn’t Need to Be A Zoom (article from WIRED)
CITY AM article Deloitte tells start they can work from home forever
Email us with your questions and ideas for future episodes startsatthetop@gmail.com
And please leave us a review if you enjoy what you hear!
Editing and production from Beth Donkin and Paul Thomas
Music by Joseph McDade https://josephmcdade.com/music

Friday Jun 11, 2021
Episode 19 - Stuart Murphy, CEO of English National Opera
Friday Jun 11, 2021
Friday Jun 11, 2021
How a national institution took on digital disruption
When Stuart Murphy sent his team home as lockdown was announced in March 2020, he didn’t know what lay ahead. Yet he was determined to keep his colleagues connected at a time of crisis and to help ENO continue to do what makes it unique: creating groundbreaking work. Digital was vital to their survival.
What follows is the story of how a national institution began to reinvent itself by embracing digital. From changing the way his organisation communicated, to building his own peer support network and responding to Black Lives Matter, Stuart tells us how ENO not only survived but thrived during a year of change and upheaval. Stuart has an inspiring story to tell which will resonate with anyone struggling to reconcile the tension between tradition and innovation in their organisation.
Paul and Zoe also discuss the latest tech news, from whether banning out of hours email can help with wellbeing to how dating apps could help the COVID-19 vaccination drive.
Notes and links -
The ENO
The ENO’s reduced price ticket scheme for under 35s
Should employees have the right to disconnect?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57314814
Can dating apps support the vaccine rollout? Article from Wired
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Email us with your questions and ideas for future episodes startsatthetop@gmail.com
And please leave us a review if you enjoy what you hear!
Editing and production from Beth Donkin and Paul Thomas
Music by Joseph McDade https://josephmcdade.com/music

Friday May 21, 2021
Friday May 21, 2021
Digital turf wars: who should lead your digital transformation?
We’ve all seen the meme about COVID-19 leading your digital transformation. But who should really lead it- should it be your digital, IT, or finance lead, or even your CEO?
There couldn’t be a better person to answer this question than Danny Attias, Chief Digital & Information Officer at Anthony Nolan and No 1 CIO in the UK. Danny tells us who should- and shouldn’t- lead the charge on digital disruption. We also chat through how to create a fail-fast culture, Danny’s top tips on how to build a diverse tech team, and why trust is the secret ingredient of organisational change.
Zoe and Paul round up the latest tech news, including The Charity Digital Skills Report survey launch, why you shouldn’t troll your staff with the promise of a bonus (thanks West Midlands Trains), Twitter’s touted premium service and new research into the emotional nuance of emojis.
(Apologies for the audio issues in the intro and outro - the joys of recording over Zoom!)
Notes and links -
The 2021 Charity Digital Skills Report https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/charitydigital2021
West Midland’s phishing email https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/11/west-midlands-trains-sends-staff-phishing-email-promising-bonus.html
Twitter plots premium service https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/may/17/twitter-mulling-paid-service-called-twitter-blue-finds-researcher
The Alan Turing Institute research into emojis https://www.turing.ac.uk/blog/emoji-are-even-more-language-previously-thought
Please follow us on Twitter @startsatthetop1
Email us with your questions and ideas for future episodes startsatthetop@gmail.com
And please leave us a review if you enjoy what you hear!
Editing and production from Beth Donkin and Paul Thomas
Music by Joseph McDade https://josephmcdade.com/music

Tuesday May 11, 2021
Episode 17 - Rob Young MBE, Chief Executive at Switch The Play Foundation
Tuesday May 11, 2021
Tuesday May 11, 2021
Mental health, transferable skills and tech
Rob Young MBE, Chief Executive at Switch The Play Foundation shares with us what we can all learn from athletes (whether they play for local clubs or the Premier League) about how they navigate the big life event of leaving behind their sporting careers and plan for the future.
We also discussed how to apply the sporting mindset to digital, including seeking feedback and identifying areas for improvement.
We discuss how Switch the Play Foundation pivoted to online service delivery during the pandemic, reaching more than a thousand people as a result, and why we all need to identify our transferable skills in order to make the next leap in our careers.
Zoe and Paul ponder why Zoom fatigue is affecting some groups more than others, how to manage the stress caused by ‘always on’ screen time and what the football boycott of social media will achieve.
Notes and links -
Zoom fatigue https://techmonitor.ai/leadership/workforce/zoom-fatigue-dark-side-new-hybrid-model-of-work
BBC article on why screentime is at breaking point https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-56838118
Please follow us on Twitter @startsatthetop1
Email us with your questions and ideas for future episodes startsatthetop@gmail.com
And please leave us a review if you enjoy what you hear!
Editing and production from Beth Donkin and Paul Thomas
Music by Joseph McDade https://josephmcdade.com/music

Friday Apr 23, 2021
Episode 16 - Dr Wanda Wyporska - Leadership rebooted
Friday Apr 23, 2021
Friday Apr 23, 2021
We meet Dr Wanda Wyporska, Executive Director at The Equality Trust
How have you changed up your leadership style during the pandemic? When Dr Wanda Wyporska, Executive Director at The Equality Trust agreed to come on the podcast we were keen to find out about the journey she’s been on over the last year, and what she’s learned from it.
We chat to Wanda about how leaders can bring their whole self to work but hold onto a work-life balance, why the sector needs to make diversity a priority and how charities can take advantage of recruiting a greater geographical range of talent when working remotely.
We also talk about social media as Wanda is currently the top CEO in the Social CEOs awards. Wanda tells us why leaders need to listen to opinions outside their social media echo chamber, and how a sarcastic tweet led to her charity winning funding. Finally, she shares how she dealt with trolling after appearing on Question Time.
Zoe and Paul also discuss why the Super League plans feel like a failed digital transformation. Please note that this episode was recorded before UK clubs withdrew from the plan.
Notes and links -
Wired article on the Super League https://www.wired.co.uk/article/european-super-league-attention-economy
Please follow us on Twitter @startsatthetop1
Email us with your questions and ideas for future episodes startsatthetop@gmail.com
And please leave us a review if you enjoy what you hear!
Editing and production from Beth Donkin and Paul Thomas
Music by Joseph McDade https://josephmcdade.com/music

Friday Apr 16, 2021
Episode 15 - Dana Kohava Segal - The post pandemic leadership playbook
Friday Apr 16, 2021
Friday Apr 16, 2021
The post pandemic leadership playbook
What should leaders prioritise as they plan for the future? We were delighted to speak to Dana Kohava Segal, international fundraising and management consultant, whose breadth of work across the sector means that she has unique insights into what leaders’ blueprint for a post vaccine world looks like.
Dana discusses how charity leadership has changed during the pandemic, her hopes and fears for the sector on the road to recovery, the role that digital plays in this and why inclusion needs to be a major priority for leaders in the wake of #NotJustNCVO.
Zoe and Paul chew over Nick Clegg’s Medium essay, PwC’s new report findings (almost 40% of workers think their job will be obsolete within five years), Rio Ferdinand’s insights on leadership and how to make the perfect simnel cake.
Notes and links -
Nick Clegg’s Medium Essay
PwC’s new report Hopes and Fears 2021
Rio Ferdinand on The Diary of a CEO podcast
Microsoft’s acquisition of Nuance
Shimrit Janes’ LinkedIn post about reflections on the future
Please follow us on Twitter @startsatthetop1
Email us with your questions and ideas for future episodes startsatthetop@gmail.com
And please leave us a review if you enjoy what you hear!
Editing and production from Beth Donkin and Paul Thomas
Music by Joseph McDade https://josephmcdade.com/music

Wednesday Mar 31, 2021
Episode 14 - James Cusack, CEO of Autistica
Wednesday Mar 31, 2021
Wednesday Mar 31, 2021
Taking a neurodiverse approach to tech
We chat to James Cusack, CEO of Autistica.
We spoke to James Cusack, CEO of Autistica and the UK's first openly autistic charity CEO about how organisations should factor neurodiversity into their plans, why this ultimately makes workplaces better for everyone, and how the pandemic has made him think differently about digital.
Zoe and Paul also discuss what Chrissy Teigen’s exit means for Twitter and what we can learn from Citigroup’s plans to reset how they work and opt for "Zoom free Fridays".